Lunar Sea Spire podcast episode 68: Log Date 7 15 2

PodcastTitleStevenBomb4GC13 and Sophia discuss the final episode of #StevenBomb4: Log Date 7 15 2. We needed an episode like this after all of the lore, good and character-focused. Sure there’s a bit of what looks like foreshadowing, but we’re here for the fun!

It’s tough to pick an MVP between Opal, Camp Pining Hearts, or the great and lovable Peridot. The green Canadian flag was also interesting to see (though somehow managed to pass by without comment).

So Peridot’s actions in Message Received seem a bit more reasonable to any of her doubters after the flashback episode, which lasted at the very least for weeks of time, wherein Peridot learned lessons like a reverse-Little Butler.

And she’s a shipper too. Crew have mercy.


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    • Bugberry on January 9, 2016 at 1:06 pm

    As we saw in Cry For Help, Garnet’s future vision seems work based on knowledge Garnet has, so she is blind to unexpected or exceedingly unlikely locations or scenarios. She probably knew Peridot would freak out and give Steven her recorder, but considering how often Peridot freaks out, didn’t think it was because of something as unlikely as her contacting Yellow Diamond.

    1. confirmed

    • Emerald on January 9, 2016 at 2:31 pm

    Yeah I still dont think Garnet can see everything just things she is looking for and she probably didnt see Peridot betraying them so her contacting Yellow Diamond was something she did not see. But who knows, I just want them to continue to give me a few more episodes before another long hiatas again.

    • Something Witty on January 9, 2016 at 3:01 pm

    I was surprise that Peridot was surprised about shapesifting.

    Maybe Garnet can only see the future that she is LOOKING for. Thats why she didnt see Pearl betraying her cuz she wasnt looking for it, she even said she was LOOKING for Peridot being captured.

    I think Peridot had straight and squiggly lines for straight and gay ships. Lots of people are likening her chart to all the Gems based on color, which places Pearl as the only Gem with straight llines on her ships with Lapis and Amethyst. Also no lines lead to Garnet.

    • Rogna on January 9, 2016 at 7:05 pm

    I’m still trying to figure out the units used in the log dates. It’s safe to say that the three numbers don’t have any relation to days, months, years, decades, or any Earth unit of time; she distinguishes between her log dates and “Earth rotations” several times. Besides, why would this advanced, colonizing race of light beings not have their own date and time system, either a mathematical one or one based on Homeworld’s orbitting pattern.

    In this episode, she does say in Log 1 12 2 (when Steven gives her the cans) that it was the “30th Earth rotation” since her “capture”, probably referring to Catch and Release. We know that she was given the tape recorder no more than one unit of whatever the second number is in each date before the episode Too Far, the log date was 7 11 2 in both that episode and the first entry. This helps a bit, but due to the fact that the largest/vaguest gap of time in the Peridemtion arc leading up to the start of this Stevenbomb was between Back to the Barn and Too Far, were still a little in the dark about how Homeworld keeps track of time.

    It’s a shame too; an understanding of the log date system could’ve put the “let’s hurry up and make a drill to stop a cluster” panic have a little more context as far as the passage of time goes. In the entire show, the only time markers we have are the Beachapaloozas and Steven’s birthdays, both of them being annual.

    Wait a tic… we’ve seen two Beachapaloozas and only one birthday…… what? Steven’s birthday is always after Beachapalooza, Sadie’s Song was before Steven’s Birthday after all. By that logic, Steven’s 13th birthday must have happened between the episodes Steven and the Stevens and Sadie’s Song. I guess they just didn’t show it, that’s weird. All we know is that it couldn’t have happened during the winter, I didn’t see that much snow in Steven’s Birthday, and that Garnet either didn’t think he was ready for Ruby and Sapphire at thirteen or just hadn’t planned it yet. Phew!

      • Rogna on January 9, 2016 at 7:07 pm

      Oops, I meant Log 7 12 2.
      Keyboards! How do they work?

      • Jon P on January 10, 2016 at 5:06 pm

      It’s nearly guaranteed that the Gem dating system runs in middle / short / long style, much like American dating conventions. Assuming that the middle and long intervals are of consistent lengths, the middle interval has at least 15 of the short intervals.
      We have 3 1 2 in “Warp Tour”, 6 5 2 in “Keeping it Together”, and 7 11 2 in “Too Far”, so that’s a minimum of 49 intervals between the first two, and 21 between the latter two.
      In terms of Earth time, 7 12 2 is the 30th day since Peridot was captured (“Catch and Release”), and by the last day of construction (“Could’ve Been”) which is 7 15 2 or the very end of 7 14 2, it had been “several weeks” since Peridot was trying to kill them. On the other hand, between the log made 7 12 2 and that made on 7 13 2, Peridot watched 78 hours of CPH. So it seems to me that one short unit on the Gem scale is ~4 days, with one middle unit then being ~2 to 2.5 months.

      This results in a coherent schedule of “& the Stevens”, “Indirect Kiss”, and “Ocean/Mirror Gem” in June “2014”; “Warp Tour” and “Alone Together” in September 2014; “Return/Jail Break” in February 2015; “Keeping it Together” in March 2015; “Nightmare” and “Sadie’s Song” in June 2015; “Catch and Release” in July 2015; and all of SB4 in August 2015.
      Steven’s birthday is then in August, with Garnet having decided that the Ruby/Sapphire reveal would be a birthday surprise after seeing Stevonnie. Beach-a-Palooza happens sometime in June. The drill building happens over the course of a few weeks, and the rest of the “30 days” is easily accounted for by presuming that Peridot spent a few weeks hiding in the bathroom, calling the Gems clods.

      Worth noting, though, is that either Ian J-Q or Matt Burnett posted something along the line that an analysis like the above is doomed to inconsistency because a running calendar is not planned to that level of detail, saying “Steven has never been 12 on screen”. And that makes sense, given the number of episodes that surely must take up considerable stretches of time, like “Tiger Millionaire”, “Sword Fighter” and “Sworn” and But if we can make it consistent, I think it’s fun to try.

        • Rogna on January 10, 2016 at 8:35 pm

        The fact that the timeline isn’t completely out of whack when looked at this closely is still amazing already!

        I didn’t even think of using Peridot’s obsession with Camp Pining Hearts as a clue! About 4 days as the short interval seems to work quite nicely with how time has been passing in the last handful of episodes. As for the amount of short intervals in each medium-length interval, I expect it to be a clean, divisible-by-five number (just seems fitting for Homeworld) making 15 a fair guess.

        Thanks for crunching the numbers and figuring out some of the months that episodes happened in. I am definitely going to refer back to your comment when wondering about certain parts of the timeline.

        Oh, and WOW THANKS!

          • Jon P on January 11, 2016 at 10:43 am

          I expanded upon the timeline a bit in a post I made on my SU tumblr (linked via my name). One typo is that KIT should be in May rather than March.

    • Mystique on January 9, 2016 at 9:22 pm

    I saw a post about a new plan for airing episodes talking about how the bomb uses a lot the complete/ready-to-air episodes. Did they actually say what the ‘new plan’ was?

  1. can NOT wait for barn mates and finally lapis again malachite being gone wonder wtf actually happened to Jasper and annd and and ill be posting this on my own new site

      • Mystique on January 10, 2016 at 9:54 am

      Ok, no offence mate, but GTFO with those F**KING SPOILERS!!!

  2. click on my name btw

      • Ken on January 13, 2016 at 11:01 pm

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