Lunar Sea Spire podcast episode 67: Message Received

PodcastTitleStevenBomb4Sophia, GC13, and Ken discuss the fourth episode of #StevenBomb4: Message Received. Definitely quite a big one (in more ways than one!).

Whether you think Peridot’s journey through this episode was strangely charted or not, you have to agree it took us to a very good place (both lore-wise and comically). We talk to such interesting people when Peridot is around.

So we’ve finally seen a Diamond in the flesh (so to speak), and heard her speak with her own voice. I can see the stakes rising from here! Get ready fanbase, this is going to be intense!

Not all of us may survive the rest of the season, but at least this podcast can’t be remotely detonated.


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    • Bugberry on January 8, 2016 at 1:34 pm

    I think, since Peridot was so used to approaching all problems with logic, she was not used to feeling the irrational emotional desire to help others, and tried to justify it to herself by calling it logic. Speaking of logic, you can see that Steven left the window to the car cracked, as if Peridot would need to breath, and she probably stretched or used some other tool to reach through the gap and open the door.

    I also have doubts about Blue Diamond controlling Earth. If Blue Diamond was in control of Earth, why would the pink ships and Rose be one of the first Gems to go there? Blue Diamond was there on a diplomacy mission, so presumably they respected the rebel Gems enough at first to attempt that and not just send an army, and what would be so important about Earth for a Diamond to go out of her way to go there? I’m assuming that Pink Diamond controlled Earth, and that either Rose was Pink Diamond, or Pink Diamond was just as cruel as the other Diamonds and Rose betrayed her, causing the other Diamonds to give her more attention.

      • Cheese on January 19, 2016 at 10:54 pm

      Peridot calls it an “invisible rotary shield”. I think she figured out how to roll down the window.

    • Emerald on January 8, 2016 at 2:24 pm

    Yellow Diamond’s neck bothers me from a drawing point cause it feels too long but it was cool to finally see her! I also love how smug that Pearl she had was and that our Pearl had to clarify that not all Pearls know eachother. I am now worried that when Yellow Diamond comes to earth that she will shatter Peridot or someone else because they try to protect Peridot now though. What do you guys think?

    • Igz on January 8, 2016 at 3:09 pm

    Here’s what I think about the whole Pink Diamond theory. It may seem too easy of an answer, but I think that we can assume that Rose was such an expert shape-shifter that she was able to change her form from a Diamond projection to a Quartz projection. Whether that was intentional or because she got poofed (“died”) in battle and chose to come back as a “Quartz” is up for even more debate, but as far as I know, that’s the only thing that I see as possible.

    It would also fit in with another theory I found about the Bismuth gem that’s in Lion’s Pocket Dimension. It states that Rose Quartz was originally a Diamond, but when she changed her form, she had to defuse with the Bismuth. Ergo, Diamonds are powerful fusions of Quartzes and Bismuths. Which, I believe, could be a reason why fusion is frowned upon on Homeworld. If normal gems were to discover that power to fuse with a Bismuth, then they could be as powerful, if not more powerful than a Diamond.

    At this point, that Bismuth is a Chekov’s Gun waiting to go off, and I have a feeling that if push comes to shove when the Crystal Gems face off against Homeworld (most likely Yellow Diamond), Steven will have to utilize that power and become a Diamond to defeat YD’s army.

      • SUfan on January 8, 2016 at 5:00 pm

      As Amethyst said a Gem cannot keep its shapeshifted form forever. And Rose”s Gem is not Diamond shaped. All the Diamonds have literally Diamond shaped Gems. And have no signs of being Fusions.

      • Freakazette on January 9, 2016 at 12:41 am

      I agree with SUfan, IMO Rose as Pink Diamond is pretty well and truly dead after this week, though it’s still probable that she and other crystal gems served under her and Rose specifically could have ranked very highly in her court. I’m not going to list all of the things that make me think this, but here are some of the ones I find more compelling.

      Rose’s size, general build, and gem shape are not consistent with the diamonds we’ve seen
      Steven and the CG’s did not react like they recognized the Pink Diamond mural in the moon base. She was definitely there, you could see her feet briefly, but there is no recognition from anybody that she even vaguely resembles Rose.
      Much of the evidence that has been cited for “Rose as Pink diamond” can easily be transferred over to Rose being under pink diamond, such as her coloration, the pink diamond we’ve seen Pearl wear, and the pink diamond disappearing from the crest would be because the rebellion was a direct cause of her downfall, not because she led it. I found it particularly interesting to note that all of the gem silhouettes that appeared in The Answer were shades of pink and blue, which suggests that Pink Diamond at this time had already been defeated and many members of her court were re-homed.

    • Orion Taylor on January 8, 2016 at 4:04 pm

    Good to know that Ken is a fellow JoJo fan. Given how awesome the adaptation of Stardust Crusaders was I have high hopes for Diamond is Unbreakable. It is interesting how (based on the previews) they are going straight to the art style used at the end of part 4.

      • Ken on January 9, 2016 at 9:45 pm

      Yea I’m really looking forward to it. The art style change between part 3 and 4 was pretty significant in the manga, so it makes sense. Part 4 was pretty easily my favorite

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