Lunar Sea Spire episode 66: It Could’ve Been Great

PodcastTitleStevenBomb4GC13 and Ken discuss the third episode of It Could’ve Been Great and we both agree with Peridot: it really could have been great!

We’re too awestruck by Ronaldo getting two huge points correct to mention it in the podcast: the Great Diamond Authority being named just that, and the plan to (mostly) hollow out the Earth. But really, why should we be surprised that another of the prophet’s predictions has come to pass?

Rose’s potential identity as Pink Diamond is still hanging in there, thanks in part to the portrait of White Diamond and another of Ronaldo’s teachings, but only time will tell who the real Pink Diamond was. The identity of Pink Diamond is certainly a big deal, whoever she is, or we probably would have seen her portrait during the episode.

Tomorrow we’ll be doing a podcast about Message Received. It sounds juicy!


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    • Scott on January 7, 2016 at 12:39 pm

    For the map of earth, looks like South America got more of Western Africa when the continents split in this universe. In addition to the big sea/ocean in the middle of Siberia, did you also see how Western Australia was all weird, and mostly underwater too? Looks like plate tectonics worked different here, or the gems did some major terraforming in the time they spent on Earth (or both?).

    • Scott on January 7, 2016 at 12:41 pm

    Also noted from the stylizations of the gems, it seems clear that in the Temple in Serious Steven, Rose Quartz was battling White Diamond, not Blue Diamond, since their hair matched, although the question of the gem’s placement still exists. White Diamond’s gem is in her head, and the drawing made it appear the diamond was in the chest, like Blue Diamond’s, but perhaps that was just her symbol, and since her head is in profile, we don’t see the gem there. Or maybe they just made a mistake and changed their mind about where White Diamond has her gem.

      • Emerald on January 7, 2016 at 2:11 pm

      Maybe Rose was fighting Bismuth in the serious Steven temple shrine? That would make sense to me since she seems to keep that one bubble in lion for a reason. They also didnt show us a picture of pink diamond for a reason but there was clearly all four colors on the floor pannel when they landed. Its very curious, I would love to know what you think!

        • gc13 on January 7, 2016 at 2:40 pm

        People have been wondering if that bubbled bismuth was the real Pink Diamond basically ever since Pink Diamond Theory became a thing. It doesn’t have the right shape either though (unlike Rose, the three Diamonds we’ve seen pictured have rhomboid gem faces).

        Based on the coloration of the mural I’d expect that the Gem she’s fighting on the mural is Blue Diamond (she also has what might be a gem in her chest, as Blue Diamond has), but people have pointed out that the Gem’s hair is very similar to how White Diamond is depicted.

          • Scott on January 7, 2016 at 4:59 pm

          I don’t think that symbol on her chest was the Diamond’s gem. It’s an equilateral triangle, and not the diamond shape of the Diamonds, like we saw on Blue Diamond and Yellow Diamond. And when I look at the color, it seems more White than Blue to me.

            • gc13 on January 7, 2016 at 5:24 pm

            It’s possible that the triangle is the symbol of a champion of the Diamonds, which would explain Rose’s triangle and the identity of her opponent handily. It’s all supposition until we see another live Gem bearing the triangle, however.

        • Something Witty on January 7, 2016 at 3:45 pm

        I doubt that she would hide Pink Diamond inside of Lion where she knew Steven would find and possibly accidentally pop the bubble holding her.

        I think Bismuth is something else. Something that won’t be revealed til mid Season 3 probably.

    • Rob on January 7, 2016 at 1:11 pm

    A small observation… If the location of a diamond’s gem holds significance, their pearls may always have their gem in the same location as a symbolic gesture (Blue Diamond and her pearl is our only example thus far, but it seems plausible). Therefore, our Pearl once belonged to White Diamond? It would certainly fit the definition of a renegade if she changed diamond allegiances…

    • Bugberry on January 7, 2016 at 1:13 pm

    Considering the Gems don’t need oxygen, I doubt the finished colony would be able to support humans even if they were evacuated and returned later. And considering how efficiency minded Homeworld seems to be, I don’t see why their Homeworld wouldn’t be just as efficient as their colonies, and look similar. Also, looking at freezeframes of the locations shown, there are two we haven’t seen yet, a straight tower with a twisty part, and a Mesoamerican pyramid.

    I’m also curious if the Gems’ ability to control how gravity affects them is some how connected to their abilities to jump high and float occasionally.

      • gc13 on January 7, 2016 at 1:32 pm

      Pressurized spires. We’ll live inside pressurized spires. If we have to go outside, I’m sure the Gems can manufacture some pretty boss spacesuits.

      What do you mean that the Gems would never help us out like that? 😉

        • Sufan on January 7, 2016 at 4:24 pm

        We’re lower life forms of course, not worthy of existing to their eyes, just more minerals to harvest.

    • Something Witty on January 7, 2016 at 3:43 pm

    Not only do I now think that Rose is NOT Pink Diamond, but I also don’t think that Pearl belonged to Rose originally. Blue Diamond’s Pearl had her Gem in the same position as Blue Diamond, and Yellow Diamond’s Pearl also fits this case. Pearl’s Gem is on her head, and so is White Diamond’s. I think our Pearl used to be White Diamond’s Pearl…

    Also those statues at the Cloud Arena, I still don’t think that those are the Diamonds. Blue Diamond’s Gem is in the wrong spot.

    Also, there was NEVER any reason to believe that Pink Diamond is gone. That’s all only our own speculation that tells us that, but nothing has stated that Pink Diamond isn’t on Homeworld right now. Also, I’m so confused about the Temple mural in Serious Steven, who the hell ARE those two Gems in the corners in front of the sun and moon? Honestly, this show has some serious plot strings to tug on later.

    That orb thing, the episode Back to the Moon part 2, is probably gonna address that orb.


    Also, Russia has to censor this show to air it, so now this show gets to censor Russia. Also notice that there’s a structure RIGHT in the middle of the new Russian Sea, which is probably the Sea Spire or the Galaxy Warp.

    And yeah, why can’t they just build structures WITHOUT making new Kindergardens and make a colony that DOESN’T make new Gems and is just a haven rather than a motherland.

    For some reason…I sense a Peridot fusion in the future. With my future vision and all.

      • Scott on January 7, 2016 at 4:12 pm

      The reason to think Pink Diamond is gone is because while the old Diamond Authority symbols have 4 diamonds in them, when we see the new Diamond Authority symbol when Jasper comes for them, we see it’s changed into a triangle and is missing the pink rhombus.

    • Sufan on January 7, 2016 at 4:26 pm

    Rose is not Pink Diamond, You can actually see the legs of the mural of Pink Diamond and they are long and skinny, Rose is not tall and skinny. She’s kinda tall, (nothing compared to the diamonds) but not skinny.

  1. Did hunter make a tinder because I really wanna date ken.

      • Ken on January 8, 2016 at 12:21 pm

      Ayyye gurl/boi

    • TackyRackyOr0dd1 on January 8, 2016 at 12:57 am

    Regarding the perfection of the colonies, I figured that they were similar to the Irken colonies in Invader Zim, specialized for whatever purpose the Diamonds want. Of course, I doubt the Gems would convert one of the planets into one specializing in fast food production…

    • Rogna on January 8, 2016 at 3:21 pm

    Though it’s tempting to view the Crystal Gems’ assignment as “the good guys” as being arbitrary, I personally think that it’s still necessary. It’s an interesting thought though; if the Crystal Gems were in fact the equivalent of eco-terrorists, it would be a twist taking advantage of both our bias towards the planet Earth (and any territory that we live in for that matter) and a viewer’s tendency to think of a show’s likable and relatively nice main characters as being on the good side. Still though, the fact that Rose believed that “all life” was “precious” and deserved to not be destroyed (at least by forces that could avoid it) makes the Crystal Gems’ motivations for protecting Earth part of an ideology that would hypothetically apply to any planet with relatively peaceful, semi-intelligent life. In other words they’re more against all around imperialism at the expense of living creatures than just Homeworld’s apparent apathy surrounding life on Earth. To me at least, Peridot’s complaint that the rebellion stopped the construction of the Gem colony a little more petty than anything else if we assume that were dealing with a much more profound, morality-based reasoning behind the rebels choosing to stick up to homeworld.

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